Client "R", Session April 11, 2013: Client discusses client-therapist relationship. trial
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CLIENT: I was just going to (inaudible). I think I'm having a [laser vision] (ph) day. (inaudible 00:00:15)
THERAPIST: You mean you, like, passed them in the waiting room or the bathroom. Or do you mean like you see them -
CLIENT: Like I see them on the street.
THERAPIST: Oh really?
CLIENT: Uh huh.
THERAPIST: Oh wow.
CLIENT: I mean not a lot. Like I've seen three total.
THERAPIST: Oh.
CLIENT: But that's (inaudible 00:00:34).
THERAPIST: Yeah.
CLIENT: It's unlikely.
THERAPIST: Uncanny.
CLIENT: [Because people are really] not paying attention. (pause) There's something weird going on here. (long pause)
THERAPIST: Do you mean in reference to that?
CLIENT: I mean in reference to us. Was it very awkward knowing (inaudible 00:01:36) that I called the (inaudible)?
THERAPIST: I was surprised, but no I don't think it would be awkward.
CLIENT: Is it very awkward to have to sit together?
THERAPIST: No. (pause) That did not surprise me.
CLIENT: I don't very often (inaudible at 00:02:08)
THERAPIST: No. I mean. No.
CLIENT: Well, I don't know what it is then.
THERAPIST: I seem [turned off]? (ph) (pause)
CLIENT: No. We've seen some things. (pause) [I'd like to walk] (ph) around.
THERAPIST: Sure. (pause)
CLIENT: Do you know anything about it? (pause) I guess that that's what comes to mind to me are like what it would be like to work with you when you were in a different phase of your career. [00:03:33] (pause)
THERAPIST: Hm.
CLIENT: My Dad mentioned before, "I wonder how much you guys are getting." (pause) And, I don't know, I wonder how much you're holding back and why. [00:04:15]
(long pause) (sound that could be a zipper being opened)
THERAPIST: Hm. (long pause) (sounds like footsteps)
CLIENT: Do you wonder why I came here and started badgering you with questions? [00:05:22]
THERAPIST: (laughs)
CLIENT: (laughs)
THERAPIST: Well I'm wondering what's up, yeah.
CLIENT: I don't know what's up. There's something up. I don't know what it is.
THERAPIST: Yeah, I know. I know.
CLIENT: I definitely, I guess I feel on the offensive. I think you're not having replied to my last two e-mails has affected me. Or my last e-mail, my second, my other one. (pause) Yeah. (pause)
THERAPIST: Uh. I wonder if you're feeling like I'm not quite here in some way. [00:06:54]
CLIENT: You've said that too many times.
THERAPIST: Hm. (pause)
CLIENT: It's hard to, um But it was my first reaction to that question. My second reaction is, is that true? (pause) Yeah, I guess you, I guess it feels like you are in a different phase or something. (pause)
THERAPIST: Like. (pause) I see, like that I'm doing things a little differently?
CLIENT: Yeah. Or like you could be doing things differently. I mean you keep choosing the one that feels less connected. Why? (pause) You're encouraging or (pause) Enthusiastic or (pause) (inaudible at 00:08:40).
THERAPIST: I see. I see more of (inaudible) like emotionally immediate or something.
CLIENT: Or you seem to be negative or serious emotionally. (pause) Hm. Right. (inaudible at 00:09:17).
THERAPIST: Ah. (pause) This kind of sucks.
CLIENT: You've also said that too many times, and I don't know that it's doing good. (pause) It does suck and it doesn't suck.
THERAPIST: Okay. And I've said it too many times. Yeah. it sounds like you feel as though you're not getting something. Like what you're getting feels too filtered or processed, and not [coming out] (ph) spontaneously. And nothing is different from before. [00:10:36]
CLIENT: I guess so, yeah.
THERAPIST: And, you know, "What the hell is going on?" Like, I don't know, "I wonder if [that's connecting to patients outside of here]." (ph)
CLIENT: I think I'm feeling -
THERAPIST: Or like, are you feeling like you irked me or shaken me up in some way?
CLIENT: Maybe. Yeah.
THERAPIST: Then I'm then, I may be pulling away is what it feels like?
CLIENT: And like I guess I could imagine that a little bit earlier you would have responded to both of the e-mails that you didn't respond to. The one about wanting to talk to you more. The one on Tuesday. And then the second one last night. And (pause) I think it's fine that you didn't respond. I think I'm not reacting to that. I think I'm reacting to maybe how you would have earlier. [00:11:41]
THERAPIST: It feels like a change.
CLIENT: Yeah. Or like I could imagine your response and how it would be in the normal things that you've done before. (pause) [It seems like a lack of communication.] (ph) (pause)
THERAPIST: You have not upset me or put me off. Or I don't feel like I'm (inaudible at 00:12:16). I'm not saying like I'm trying just to see what you [observe]. I'm just saying that I'm not aware of any (inaudible).
CLIENT: Mm hm. (pause) This does seem different.
THERAPIST: Now.
CLIENT: Yeah. (pause)
THERAPIST: And you seem pretty sure it's me. And maybe it is.
CLIENT: No. I started off, I think, (inaudible at 00:13:27)
THERAPIST: Yeah.
CLIENT: But (pause) I don't feel a lot of, I mean with different things.
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